before we get to our panelists, dave cam subpoenaed the obama administration for internal obama care enrollment data and private estimates shows signups for the older people. plus, call them the hidden cross of obama care. thanks to the laws, collection, taxes, fees, regulations on insurers, everybody will have nearly higher premiums. president obama's gallup approval rating, which has now fallen to just 39%, so my question this evening with obama's credibility on the line, why would the white house resort to new lots about obama care. >> it's really not necessary. here now we have health policy forum. kelly ann conway, president and ceo of the polling company. we welcome ron foreign yeah. lying about lies, credibility matter. fournier, why are they doing all of this. it will damage his credibility even more. >> i don't know why they're doing it. it's political malpractice, any leader whether you're in politics, business, running a church, you have to have credibility. especially towards the young millennials. the president has to convince them this is good for them, good for their f